Directions: Choose a small selection of dialogue from a movie/play and pair it with a scene from Hamlet. Compare and contrast the ideas in the passage. Think about movies that present a father and son relationship. You may need to post your responses in two, due the length. Look at the example below as a guide in your exploration. You may use YouTube links in place or in addition to dialogue.
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Mr. Pellerin's Super Cool Example
From Star Wars: Episode 5 - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
Darth Vader
There is no escape! Don’t make me destroy you. Luke, you do not yet realize your importance. You’ve only begun to discover your power! Join me, and I will complete your training! With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict, and bring order to the galaxy.
Luke Skywalker
I’ll never join you!
Vader
If only you knew the power of the Dark Side. Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.
Luke
He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Vader
No, I am your father.
Luke
No. No! That’s not true! That’s impossible!
Vader
Search your feelings; you know it to be true!
Luke
No!
Parallel Scene from Hamlet, Act I, Scene v by William Shakespeare
Ghost
If thou hast nature in thee, bear it not;
Let not the royal bed of Denmark be
A couch for luxury and damned incest.
But, howsoever thou pursuest this act,
Taint not thy mind, nor let thy soul contrive
Against thy mother aught: leave her to heaven
And to those thorns that in her bosom lodge,
To prick and sting her. Fare thee well at once!
The glow-worm shows the matin to be near,
And 'gins to pale his uneffectual fire:
Adieu, adieu! Hamlet, remember me.
Exit
Hamlet
O all you host of heaven! O earth! what else?
And shall I couple hell? O, fie! Hold, hold, my heart;
And you, my sinews, grow not instant old,
But bear me stiffly up. Remember thee!
Ay, thou poor ghost, while memory holds a seat
In this distracted globe. Remember thee!
Yea, from the table of my memory
I'll wipe away all trivial fond records,
All saws of books, all forms, all pressures past,
That youth and observation copied there;
And thy commandment all alone shall live
Within the book and volume of my brain,
Unmix'd with baser matter: yes, by heaven!
O most pernicious woman!
O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain!
My tables,--meet it is I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain;
At least I'm sure it may be so in Denmark:
So, uncle, there you are. Now to my word;
It is 'Adieu, adieu! remember me.'
I have sworn 't.
My Analysis
In the case of Star Wars, Luke was under the impression that his father was a great Jedi. This is true, but he did know that his father is alive in the form of Darth Vader. In Return of the Jedi, Obi-wan Ken-obi will explain that they are two separate entities. When Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, “The good man who was your father was gone.” It is Luke’s destiny to confront his father and kill him.
Similarly, Hamlet is confronted with the ghost of his father. While Vader is seen as evil, King Hamlet is seen as a hero. Both fathers are placing a great deal on the shoulders of their respective sons. Like Hamlet, Luke initially does not believe he should comply with his destiny. Hamlet is also unsure and will put on a play to "catch the conscious of the king" (II.ii.1680).
Ultimately, Luke confronts Vader and saves him by allowing his humanity to come through. Vader kills the Emperor to save Luke’s life. His spirit is seen alongside Yoda and Obi-wan at the end of Jedi. Will Hamlet be able to confront his uncle? Will Hamlet’s father return to aid his son, or is Hamlet on his own from this point further? While Luke had Yoda, Leia, Han, C-3P0, R2 and a host of others, Hamlet only has Horatio.
If thou hast nature in thee, bear it not;
Let not the royal bed of Denmark be
A couch for luxury and damned incest.
But, howsoever thou pursuest this act,
Taint not thy mind, nor let thy soul contrive
Against thy mother aught: leave her to heaven
And to those thorns that in her bosom lodge,
To prick and sting her. Fare thee well at once!
The glow-worm shows the matin to be near,
And 'gins to pale his uneffectual fire:
Adieu, adieu! Hamlet, remember me.
Exit
Hamlet
O all you host of heaven! O earth! what else?
And shall I couple hell? O, fie! Hold, hold, my heart;
And you, my sinews, grow not instant old,
But bear me stiffly up. Remember thee!
Ay, thou poor ghost, while memory holds a seat
In this distracted globe. Remember thee!
Yea, from the table of my memory
I'll wipe away all trivial fond records,
All saws of books, all forms, all pressures past,
That youth and observation copied there;
And thy commandment all alone shall live
Within the book and volume of my brain,
Unmix'd with baser matter: yes, by heaven!
O most pernicious woman!
O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain!
My tables,--meet it is I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain;
At least I'm sure it may be so in Denmark:
So, uncle, there you are. Now to my word;
It is 'Adieu, adieu! remember me.'
I have sworn 't.
My Analysis
In the case of Star Wars, Luke was under the impression that his father was a great Jedi. This is true, but he did know that his father is alive in the form of Darth Vader. In Return of the Jedi, Obi-wan Ken-obi will explain that they are two separate entities. When Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, “The good man who was your father was gone.” It is Luke’s destiny to confront his father and kill him.
Similarly, Hamlet is confronted with the ghost of his father. While Vader is seen as evil, King Hamlet is seen as a hero. Both fathers are placing a great deal on the shoulders of their respective sons. Like Hamlet, Luke initially does not believe he should comply with his destiny. Hamlet is also unsure and will put on a play to "catch the conscious of the king" (II.ii.1680).
Ultimately, Luke confronts Vader and saves him by allowing his humanity to come through. Vader kills the Emperor to save Luke’s life. His spirit is seen alongside Yoda and Obi-wan at the end of Jedi. Will Hamlet be able to confront his uncle? Will Hamlet’s father return to aid his son, or is Hamlet on his own from this point further? While Luke had Yoda, Leia, Han, C-3P0, R2 and a host of others, Hamlet only has Horatio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_wnD6jxREU
ReplyDeleteThis scene in "A Field of Dreams" seems to be the reconciliation between every father and son because of all their grudges that they hold from their lives and make amends for. It is very difficult to talk to your father about emotional topics, especially as a man and there being a stereotype of holding a 'manly' face. This scene between Kevin Costner and his father in the movie seem to be very different than Hamlet's meeting with his father.
Ghost
I am thy father's spirit,
Doom'd for a certain term to walk the night,
And for the day confined to fast in fires,
Till the foul crimes done in my days of nature
Are burnt and purged away. But that I am forbid
To tell the secrets of my prison-house,
I could a tale unfold whose lightest word
Would harrow up thy soul, freeze thy young blood,
Make thy two eyes, like stars, start from their spheres,
Thy knotted and combined locks to part
And each particular hair to stand on end,
Like quills upon the fretful porpentine:
But this eternal blazon must not be
To ears of flesh and blood. List, list, O, list!
If thou didst ever thy dear father love--
HAMLET
O God!
Ghost
Revenge his foul and most unnatural murder.
Hamlet's father returns with a message to his son. He hopes Hamlet will avenge his death at his Uncle's hands. There's is a necessity for his fathers return to continue the story and for Hamlet to understand why he needs to kill his Uncle. There is a necessity of Kevin Costner's father to return in "A Field of Dreams" and that is to have some sort of reassurance in Kevin and to make sure he knows that his father cares for him. Both of the returns are necessary but for different reasons.
- John Marshall
“Sleeping within my orchard
ReplyDeleteMy custom always of the afternoon,
Upon my secure hour thy uncle stole
With juice of cursed hebenon in a vial,
And in the porches of my ears did pour
The leperous distilment, whose effect
Holds such an enmity with blood of man” (pg. 24).
biff: Leave it there! Don’t move it!
willy [not looking at it]: What is that?
biff: You know goddam well what that is.
willy [caged, wanting to escape]: I never saw that.
biff: You saw it. The mice didn’t bring it into the cellar! What is this supposed to do, make a hero out of you? This supposed to make me sorry for you?
willy: Never heard of it.
biff: There’ll be no pity for you, you hear it? No pity
In the play Hamlet, he is presented with a ghost upon him who displays himself to be the spirit of his father. As the conversation furthers between the two, Hamlet discovers that his father was killed by his uncle. As this seemed shocking in the cases of these events, his father was already gone to Hamlet as this new information didn’t bring his father back.
Similarly, in Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller, the main character Willy has been participating in multiple actions as an attempt of sucide. To his family, he is already gone. Their real father has been gone for a long time due to him mentally becoming unstable. When his new information presented itself to his sons, it cleared up a lot of questions they had about their father in the sense of why he was acting unusual. However, this additional information did not bring their father back similarly to Hamlet.
The information that was received in both plays gave the boys feelings of anger and worry as a response as to them discovering these events. In the conclusion of the play, Willys was too far gone for anyone, let alone his family to save him. Was their something that his family could have done differently to help save Willy? For Hamlet, could he have saved his father too?
- Adriana DeSantis
Safe Haven- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3heFb1hIMs
ReplyDeleteALEX
Hey buddy. *Patting Josh on the back* Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
JOSH
It’s gone
ALEX
I know it’s gone, I know it’s gone; but we’re going to rebuild it just like it was before, alright?
JOSH
I miss her. I miss mom.
ALEX
I miss her too bud. I’m always going to miss her.
JOSH
*cries softly*
ALEX
It’s alright, it’s okay.
Hamlet
KING CLAUDIUS
How is it that the clouds still hang on you?
HAMLET
Not so, my lord; I am too much i' the sun.
QUEEN GERTRUDE
Good Hamlet, cast thy nighted colour off,
And let thine eye look like a friend on Denmark.
Do not for ever with thy vailed lids
Seek for thy noble father in the dust:
Thou know'st 'tis common; all that lives must die,
Passing through nature to eternity.
HAMLET
Ay, madam, it is common.
QUEEN GERTRUDE
If it be,
Why seems it so particular with thee?
HAMLET
Seems, madam! nay it is; I know not 'seems.'
'Tis not alone my inky cloak, good mother,
Nor customary suits of solemn black,
Nor windy suspiration of forced breath,
No, nor the fruitful river in the eye,
Nor the dejected 'havior of the visage,
Together with all forms, moods, shapes of grief,
That can denote me truly: these indeed seem,
For they are actions that a man might play:
But I have that within which passeth show;
These but the trappings and the suits of woe.
In the movie Safe Haven, a woman meets a man who is raising two kids on his own after their mother died. After a little warming up to the kids, she is able to fill the missing part to their family and live knowing that the kids birth mother appreciates her taking over and is their to spiritually guide them. I found Hamlet to be similar because the passed parent returns as a ghost figure and tells them what to do. Although the mother didn’t send her out to kill, she still returned to guide her to carry out what she would have done if she was still there.
DeleteIn the scene from Safe Haven scene there was just a big fire that burnt down the family business and the remains of the mother's things (except what is shown). We watch the father and son have an emotional moment honoring the passing of the mother. We see two completely different reactions of the widowed parents between these works. In Safe Haven, the fathered had been trying all along to sympathize with his son, over the loss of their wife/mother, but was never able to. Unlike Hamlet’s mother who shortly mourns and then remarries her brother in-law and tells Hamlet not to be sad because everyone dies.
-Regan Grygiel
Lion King : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBIDvdlpHlk
ReplyDeleteHamlet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=1gpDgB-GJPY
In the case of the Lion King Mufasa, Scar, and Simba are parallels to King Hamlet, Hamlet's uncle, and hamlet, in this particular scene we see Scar throw Mufasa into the stampeding wildebeests because Scar wants to be king. Similarly we find out in act II scene II that Hamlet's uncle killed King Hamlet to seize the throne, both Simba and Hamlet loved their fathers who received the utmost respect and praise as Kings and it gives you evidence that they both feel the same feeling of this massive loss.
Although the scenes are very much different, Hamlet talking to his father's ghost versus Scar throwing Mufasa they are caused by the same problem a brothers greed for the throne. Lastly in some ways Simba might feel guilt for his father's death because he died saving him, Hamlet isn’t saved by his father but he has this same morbid depressed feeling after losing him.
- Sean Healey
In the movie, The Amazing Spider man 2 with Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone, Andrew plays spider man and Emma plays Gwen, spider man's girlfriend. After all the chaos in the movie with the giant lizard, also known as Dr Connors, and spider man helping Gwen's dad, the chief of police, the chief asks spider man for a favor. He asks Peter not to get Gwen involved with that type of violent crime life and to stop going out with her. Peter accepting the favor stops talking to Gwen and she is very sad. This relates to the scene in Hamlet between Polonius and Ophelia where Polonious orders her to stop seeing Hamlet because he is royalty and she should not associate with that. After Ophelia breaks up with Hamlet it adds on to the depression he is going through from the death of his father, the king.
ReplyDeleteLion King Scene:
ReplyDeleteRafiki : Look down there.
[Slowly Simba walks to the edge of the watering hole and peers inside. His reflection stares back at him]
Adult Simba : That's not my father. That's just my reflection.
Rafiki : No. Look harder.
[Rafiki touches the water which causes waves that change Simba's reflection into Mufasa]
Rafiki : You see? He lives in you.
Mufasa's Ghost : [From above] Simba.
Adult Simba : Father?
Mufasa's Ghost : [He appears in the sky as a group of stars] Simba, you have forgotten me.
Adult Simba : No. How could I?
Mufasa's Ghost : You have forgotten who you are and so have forgotten me. Look inside yourself Simba. You are more than what you have become. You must take your place in the Circle of life.
Adult Simba : How can I go back? I'm not who I used to be.
Mufasa's Ghost : [Now fully formed in the sky] Remember who you are. You are my son and the one true king. Remember who you are.
Adult Simba : [Mufasa's ghost begins to disappear] No! Please! Don't leave me!
Mufasa's Ghost : Remember.
Adult Simba : Father!
Mufasa's Ghost : Remember.
Adult Simba : Don't leave me.
Mufasa's Ghost : Remember.
Parallel scene Hamlet:
HAMLET
Where wilt thou lead me? speak; I'll go no further.
Ghost
Mark me.
HAMLET
I will.
Ghost
My hour is almost come,
When I to sulphurous and tormenting flames
Must render up myself.
HAMLET
Alas, poor ghost!
Ghost
Pity me not, but lend thy serious hearing
To what I shall unfold.
HAMLET
Speak; I am bound to hear.
Ghost
So art thou to revenge, when thou shalt hear.
HAMLET
What?
Ghost
I am thy father's spirit,
Doom'd for a certain term to walk the night,
And for the day confined to fast in fires,
Till the foul crimes done in my days of nature
Are burnt and purged away. But that I am forbid
To tell the secrets of my prison-house,
I could a tale unfold whose lightest word
Would harrow up thy soul, freeze thy young blood,
Make thy two eyes, like stars, start from their spheres,
Thy knotted and combined locks to part
And each particular hair to stand on end,
Like quills upon the fretful porpentine:
But this eternal blazon must not be
To ears of flesh and blood. List, list, O, list!
If thou didst ever thy dear father love--
HAMLET
O God!
Ghost
Revenge his foul and most unnatural murder.
HAMLET
Murder!
Ghost
DeleteMurder most foul, as in the best it is;
But this most foul, strange and unnatural.
HAMLET
Haste me to know't, that I, with wings as swift
As meditation or the thoughts of love,
May sweep to my revenge.
Ghost
I find thee apt;
And duller shouldst thou be than the fat weed
That roots itself in ease on Lethe wharf,
Wouldst thou not stir in this. Now, Hamlet, hear:
'Tis given out that, sleeping in my orchard,
A serpent stung me; so the whole ear of Denmark
Is by a forged process of my death
Rankly abused: but know, thou noble youth,
The serpent that did sting thy father's life
Now wears his crown.
HAMLET
O my prophetic soul! My uncle!
Ghost
Ay, that incestuous, that adulterate beast,
With witchcraft of his wit, with traitorous gifts,--
O wicked wit and gifts, that have the power
So to seduce!--won to his shameful lust
The will of my most seeming-virtuous queen:
O Hamlet, what a falling-off was there!
From me, whose love was of that dignity
That it went hand in hand even with the vow
I made to her in marriage, and to decline
Upon a wretch whose natural gifts were poor
To those of mine!
But virtue, as it never will be moved,
Though lewdness court it in a shape of heaven,
So lust, though to a radiant angel link'd,
Will sate itself in a celestial bed,
And prey on garbage.
But, soft! methinks I scent the morning air;
Brief let me be. Sleeping within my orchard,
My custom always of the afternoon,
Upon my secure hour thy uncle stole,
With juice of cursed hebenon in a vial,
And in the porches of my ears did pour
The leperous distilment; whose effect
Holds such an enmity with blood of man
That swift as quicksilver it courses through
The natural gates and alleys of the body,
And with a sudden vigour doth posset
And curd, like eager droppings into milk,
The thin and wholesome blood: so did it mine;
And a most instant tetter bark'd about,
Most lazar-like, with vile and loathsome crust,
All my smooth body.
Thus was I, sleeping, by a brother's hand
Of life, of crown, of queen, at once dispatch'd:
Cut off even in the blossoms of my sin,
Unhousel'd, disappointed, unanel'd,
No reckoning made, but sent to my account
With all my imperfections on my head:
O, horrible! O, horrible! most horrible!
If thou hast nature in thee, bear it not;
Let not the royal bed of Denmark be
A couch for luxury and damned incest.
But, howsoever thou pursuest this act,
Taint not thy mind, nor let thy soul contrive
Against thy mother aught: leave her to heaven
And to those thorns that in her bosom lodge,
To prick and sting her. Fare thee well at once!
The glow-worm shows the matin to be near,
And 'gins to pale his uneffectual fire:
Adieu, adieu! Hamlet, remember me.
In the scene of Lion King, Simba looks into the pond and sees the reflection of his father and receives advice from him. In Hamlet, He sees his father as a ghost and he tells him about how his uncle killed him and how he needs to kill his uncle. Although thats what Mufasa should say to Simba he tells him to not run away from who he is and that he needs to save the kingdom.
The movie i chose to compare to Hamlet was Lion King they are very different movies but they are at the same time have the same sort of plot. They both have the same sort of plot to basically get revenge by killing the one who murdered their father. In the lion king the lion "Scar" tried to kill both Mufasa and Simba bye pushing them into a stampeding wildebeests, While in Hamlet it was Claudius poisoning Hamlets father. They also hold similarities in many other was such as the younger brother being next in line for the throne and then Simba and Hamlet come along and ruin there chances at the throne, so the younger brothers had the same reaction. Kill the king. Then Scar had Simba run away so he could take the throne and Claudius married the queen.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTLdy1n-DME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Irg8xn4bg
I chose the scene of simba finding his father and hamlet talking to his fathers ghost since, Its the point iwht both movies when they realize there destiny. They both want to avenge their father.
TALLADEGA NIGHTS- THE BALLAD OF RICKY BOBBY
ReplyDeleteHAMLET BY WILLIAM SHAKEPEARE
Ricky comes riding up to his house on a kid’s BMX bike with a pizza on the back. There’s a limo parked in front of the house.
Cal Naughton Jr. gets out.
CAL NAUGHTON JR.
I never thought I’d live to see this day, Ricky Bobby on a bicycle.
RICKY
Hey Cal, what the hell you doing here?
CAL NAUGHTON JR.
Look Ricky I’m going to make this short, you and I never liked each other. And I guess you know by now that me and Carley fooled around
many a night.
RICKY
No Cal, I didn’t know that.
CAL NAUGHTON JR.
(his voice gets high pitched) Well, it’s good you didn’t know it because I just made it up. It’s a lie, a fun lie. I like to tell fun lies so that we can have a laugh.
RICKY Why is your voice gettin’ all high?
GHOST
“...Now wears his crown.
HAMLET
O my prophetic soul! My uncle!
Ghost
Ay, that incestuous, that adulterate beast,
With witchcraft of his wit, with traitorous gifts,--
O wicked wit and gifts, that have the power
So to seduce!--won to his shameful lust
The will of my most seeming-virtuous queen:
O Hamlet, what a falling-off was there!
From me, whose love was of that dignity
That it went hand in hand even with the vow
I made to her in marriage, and to decline
Upon a wretch whose natural gifts were poor
To those of mine!
But virtue, as it never will be moved,
Though lewdness court it in a shape of heaven,
So lust, though to a radiant angel link'd,
Will sate itself in a celestial bed,
And prey on garbage.
But, soft! methinks I scent the morning air;
Brief let me be. Sleeping within my orchard,
My custom always of the afternoon,
Upon my secure hour thy uncle stole,
With juice of cursed hebenon in a vial,
And in the porches of my ears did pour
The leperous distilment; whose effect
Holds such an enmity with blood of man
That swift as quicksilver it courses through
The natural gates and alleys of the body,
And with a sudden vigour doth posset
And curd, like eager droppings into milk,
The thin and wholesome blood: so did it mine;
And a most instant tetter bark'd about,
Most lazar-like, with vile and loathsome crust,
All my smooth body”
All though these two movies could not be more opposite, it has the same component of backstab through out it. In Hamlet, his father dies, and his uncle steps in to marry his wife and take the throne. The similarity between the two is that Ricky Bobby, who had just come back from a coma, to find his wife (Carley) wanting a divorce along with his best friend had been hooking up with her. Cal Naughton Jr., his old best friend, had now become the best racer since Ricky’s been in the hospital. This reminds me of Hamlet because the idea of being close then backstabbing. Ricky and Hamlet are left clueless and helpless being very sad as if they lost so much.
-adam theeb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn_qirpdBag
ReplyDelete(ghost) But know, thou noble youth,
The serpent that did sting thy father’s life
Now wears his crown...
Upon my secure hour thy uncle stole
With juice of cursed hebenon in a vial,
And in the porches of my ears did pour.
Hamlet finds out his father was killed by his uncle. He decides to test it out first before taking any action but later goes through with a plan to sabotage his uncle. Simba is off trying to get over his father's death when he is told by a monkey to return and take back the thrown. Simba finds out that Scar his uncle killed his father Mufasa to take over as king. Before this everyone was hopeless and just went along with him and didn't get in his way. Although the way the truth came out was different in The Lion King and Hamlet both Simba and Hamlet knew they had to try to over throw their uncles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgvaHcFLH7Y real link
DeleteThe movie I chose was the Lion king. I chose this because i found Mufasa's death very similar to Hamlets father getting killed. In Hamlet, Claudious wants to be the king so he decides to kill Hamlets father. In The Lion Kings, Simbas father is killed because Mufasa is king and Scar also wants to be the king. While Mufasa is escaping the herd of wildabeasts, Scar makes Mufasa fall from the cliff into the crowd, killing him. In Hamlet, Claudious puts poison in the ear of Hamlets father, killing him. I found these so similar because now the main goal is for the kids to get revenge on their fathers killer.
ReplyDeleteLion King : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBIDvdlpHlk
- Nolan Brezinski
I chose the Lion King to compare to Hamlet. The movies are both similar in a way because they both want revenge on whoever killed their own fathers. In The Lion King the lion, Scar attempts to kill Mufasa and Simba by pushing them into wildebeests, While in Hamlet it was Claudius poisoning Hamlet's father. Another similarity is that they both want to kill the king. For example, when the younger brother was next in line for the throne, Simba and Hamlet come along and ruin their chances at the throne. As a result, Scar had Simba run away so he could take the throne and then in Hamlet Claudius married the queen.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Irg8xn4bg
jacob mini
ReplyDeleteThe Lion King and Hamlet have many similiarties. Its also a true fact that the lion king was inspired by Hamlet, “It is confirmed in the 1994 special edition DVD release of the film” That being said, Both King Mufasa and King Hamlet die. Mufasa is murdered by his brother Scar who takes over his throne. In hamlet, his father dies and his mother remarries to his husbands brother claudious almost instanley. She isnt aware that he wanted to be king so he poisned Hamlets father. Another similarity is how Mufasa and King Hamlet both make appearances after death. Mufasa appears to Simba in the stars and tells him to take his proper place as king in the circle of life. Hamlet’s father appears as a ghost and urges Hamlet to take revenge on his uncle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSOHORoI1JE
ReplyDeleteThe Lion King is Hamlet with animals basically. In both sotries, the protagonist's father dies, and both of them are the respective rulers of the land. Mufasa is murdered by his brother Scar, and the ghost of king Hamlet tells Hamlet that his brother had posioned him. Scar takes over the throne because he is next in line, but in Hamlet, Hamlet should be the one on the throne. Claudius knows this so he marries Hamlet's mother to put him on the throne. Later in both plots the father's of Simba and Hamlet appear to them in a ghost like form. Both characters are told to win the throne back and to restore what should have been.
ReplyDeleteMichael Long
DeleteHamlet
ReplyDeleteKING CLAUDIUS
How is it that the clouds still hang on you?
HAMLET
Not so, my lord; I am too much i' the sun.
QUEEN GERTRUDE
Good Hamlet, cast thy nighted colour off,
And let thine eye look like a friend on Denmark.
Do not for ever with thy vailed lids
Seek for thy noble father in the dust:
Thou know'st 'tis common; all that lives must die,
Passing through nature to eternity.
HAMLET
Ay, madam, it is common.
QUEEN GERTRUDE
If it be,
Why seems it so particular with thee?
HAMLET
Seems, madam! nay it is; I know not 'seems.'
'Tis not alone my inky cloak, good mother,
Nor customary suits of solemn black,
Nor windy suspiration of forced breath,
No, nor the fruitful river in the eye,
Nor the dejected 'havior of the visage,
Together with all forms, moods, shapes of grief,
That can denote me truly: these indeed seem,
For they are actions that a man might play:
But I have that within which passeth show;
These but the trappings and the suits of woe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tnjqReAzaQ
This scene from Harry Potter is about how Harrys parents die. He finally finds out after many years how they were killed and is haunted with flashbacks and seeing them as ghosts and etc., everyday.
Hamlet sees his fathers ghost and after many years of not fulling knowing how his father died is finally given the truth. Now both Harrys parents and Hamlets dad had been murder by someone very cruel. Now they both seek revenge and so much hatred for that person who gave them this grief.
- Jussy Reppucci
(I don't have a scene since it's incredibly hard to find just the right scene(s), so I basically just wrote out everything.)
ReplyDeleteThe show I picked to compare to Hamlet is "The Untamed", a Chinese television show based on the novel "The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation".
In the show/novel, there is a character named Xue Yang that manipulates everyone to get what he wants or just for fun. When he’s first introduced, he’s pretending to an old “friend”, named Xiao Xingchen, trying to distract and get close to the main character, Wei Wu Xian, and those following him. A lot happens and they figure out who he is, he starts fighting the other main character, Lan Wang Ji, and then Wei Wu Xian looks into the past with the help of a ghost they found in the town. To sum up the whole flashback thing, Xue Yang is found by Xiao Xingchen, who’s blind, and pretends he doesn’t know him since Xiao Xingchen can’t recognize him (they are enemies and have almost killed each other before); he pretends for over two years that he’s a nameless friend and becomes close to Xiao Xingcheng, making him murder innocent civilians without him realizing, and then near the end making him kill the friend he gave his eyes to (long story) and then he, Xiao Xingchen, killed himself. More happens after that, but it doesn’t really go with what I’m trying to point out. So, Xue Yang puts on the act of pretending to be someone else for so long for almost no reason other than that he wants Xiao Xingchen to suffer as much as possible.
Hamlet is not exactly like this, but similar. He puts on a facade of being insane to get the information and reactions he wants in order to fulfill his goal of killing his uncle.
I chose to compare the Lion King to Hamlet. They are very similar in many ways. Both Simba and Hamlet are driven by the ghosts of their dads calling for vengeance. Both show up in a chilly, midnight setting and make statements along the lines of "remember me" and "mark me" and "you've forgotten who you are". However on account of Hamlet, the ghost is pretty explicit. He basically says "My brother killed me and it is your job to kill him now". Both Simba and Hamlet are royalty. Both Stories depend on that fact. They are both the oldest child of the King before their fathers die.
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ReplyDeleteO, my offence is rank it smells to heaven;
It hath the primal eldest curse upon't,
A brother's murder. Pray can I not,
Though inclination be as sharp as will:
My stronger guilt defeats my strong intent;
And, like a man to double business bound,
I stand in pause where I shall first begin,
And both neglect. What if this cursed hand
Were thicker than itself with brother's blood,
Is there not rain enough in the sweet heavens
To wash it white as snow? Whereto serves mercy
But to confront the visage of offence?
And what's in prayer but this two-fold force,
To be forestalled ere we come to fall,
Or pardon'd being down? Then I'll look up;
My fault is past. But, O, what form of prayer
Can serve my turn? 'Forgive me my foul murder'?
That cannot be; since I am still possess'd
Of those effects for which I did the murder,
My crown, mine own ambition and my queen.
May one be pardon'd and retain the offence?
In the corrupted currents of this world
Offence's gilded hand may shove by justice,
And oft 'tis seen the wicked prize itself
Buys out the law: but 'tis not so above;
There is no shuffling, there the action lies
In his true nature; and we ourselves compell'd,
Even to the teeth and forehead of our faults,
To give in evidence. What then? what rests?
Try what repentance can: what can it not?
Yet what can it when one can not repent?
O wretched state! O bosom black as death!
O limed soul, that, struggling to be free,
Art more engaged! Help, angels! Make assay!
Bow, stubborn knees; and, heart with strings of steel,
Be soft as sinews of the newborn babe!
All may be well.
I made a connection with the king and his grief in king his brother and Spongebob's grief in thinking he woke up a giant oyster and made it cry. Both know what they did was wrong and watch as others around the suffer the effects of their actions. However, Spongebob owns up for his actions when his best friend is going to be punished for what Spongebob thought he did, but it turns out neither of them woke it up and it was someone else the whole time.
Dereck Silvestro
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